Agenda and minutes

Online Meeting, Licensing Sub-Committee
Monday 30 November 2020 11:15 am

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No. Item


Appointment of Chair


Moved by Councillor Gander, seconded by Councillor Lidbetter and


Resolved, that Councillor Wehring be appointed as Chair for the meeting.


Declarations of Interest


There were no declarations of interest.


Poor Boys, Units 5-8 Griffin Centre, Market Place, Kingston upon Thames pdf icon PDF 2 MB


The Licensing Officer introduced the matter for determination and confirmed that Jasim Kadar had applied for a new Premises Licence for the premises to be known as Poor Boys – Units 5-8 Griffin Centre, Market Place, Kingston upon Thames.

The application sought a new Premises Licence to permit the sale of alcohol (for consumption on the premises only) and provision of recorded music (indoors), Monday to Friday from 12:00 to 23:00, Saturday from 10:00 to 23:00, and Sunday from 10:00 to 21:00. Currently both units 5 (Poor Boys) and 8 (formerly Chez Lalee) at the Griffin Centre benefit from premises licences. Having taken over the neighbouring unit and installed an access between the two sites, the applicant sought a new Premises Licence to encompass both units and standardise the licensable activities and hours permitted. Unit 5 Griffin Centre currently benefits from a premises licence that authorises the sale by retail of alcohol for consumption on the premises Monday to Saturday from 12:00 to 23:00 and Sunday from 12:00 to 22:30. Unit 8 currently benefits from a premises licence that authorises the sale by retail of alcohol for consumption on the premises from 10:00 to 23:00 Monday to Saturday and from 12:00 to 22:30 on Sundays.

The Licensing Officer explained that the applicant had advertised the application, as required, by way of a public notice at the premises and by advertisement in a local newspaper and that the application had also been advertised on the Council’s website. In addition some 436 addresses were consulted in writing and informed that an application had been received, with one valid representation being received from Other Persons The representation referred to public nuisance Licensing Objectives.

It was confirmed that all Responsible Authorities received a copy of the application. The Metropolitan Police as the Responsible Authority for the prevention of crime and disorder and the Council’s Environmental Protection Officer (Pollution Control) as Responsible Authority for the prevention of public nuisance initially raised concerns regarding the application. Following further consultation the applicant had addressed the concerns by making amendments to the Operating Schedule. These amendments were reflected in the conditions shown in Annex 3 of the report before the Sub-Committee. In light of these amendments the representations made by the Responsible Authorities had been satisfied. 

Mr Kadar outlined his application to the Sub-Committee, confirming the consolidation of his business into Units 5-8 and his intention to ensure that residential amenity was respected and not affected by his business activities. He stated that he had been made aware of the complaint arising from the use of a 7 inch hand drum by a member of staff and that once aware of this complaint had ensured the use of the drum ceased. Mr Kadar said that he had operated his business for 3 years from the Griffin Centre without previous issue. 

After questions to Mr Kadar from the Sub-Committee, members were addressed by Geraldine McAteer who referred to the drum noise issue that she said had occurred at  ...  view the full minutes text for item 3.


Urgent Items Authorised by the Chair


There were no urgent items.


Exclusion of the Press and Public

The following matters may be considered in private if the Committee agrees that, under Section 100(A)(4) of the Local Government Act 1972, the public are excluded from the meeting on the grounds that it is likely that exempt information, as defined in paragraph 1 ofPart I of Schedule 12A to the Act, would be disclosed.  This paragraph covers information relating to any individual.



The motion to exclude press and public was not required.